Lady_Justice copyHere in another rock and metal news special report, we once again bring you when metal bands fight and today is the case of Scott Weiland vs Stone Temple Pilots. Now as all of you may have or may not remember, but Scott Weiland and the defendants Stone Temple Pilots have had a turbulent past that has seen the band call it a day plenty of times while Scott either battle drug issues or was the frontman of Velvet Revolver. On February 27, 2013, Stone Temple Pilots officially announced that they had terminated Scott Weiland in a very short press release that read, “Stone Temple Pilots have announced they have officially terminated Scott Weiland.” The strangest part of the whole ordeal is that before this announcement, Slash had come out and said that Scott was fired and in an interview with Rollingstone.com the day before the press release, Scott had said, “STP has not broken up. I haven’t quit. I haven’t been fired … Slash doesn’t know anything about STP. We’re talking right now about when we want to tour next … No one has ever fired anybody in STP. We’re like a family. It’s also a partnership. I started the band. We’ve always kept things going. We’ve taken time off before. They’ve done their own projects and I fully support that. No one has been fired and I haven’t quit. That’s all hearsay.” Then after the press release was issued, Scott had this to say about it in his own statement that same day:

I learned of my supposed “termination” from Stone Temple Pilots this morning by reading about it in the press. Not sure how I can be “terminated” from a band that I founded, fronted and co-wrote many of its biggest hits, but that’s something for the lawyers to figure out. In the meantime, I’m looking forward to seeing all of my fans on my solo tour which starts this Friday. – Scott Weiland

Scott-WeilandOn March 6, 2013, Scott was sort of singing the denial tune as he spoke to Spin Magazine saying that he communication breakdown was , “something that has taken on its own life. Behind the scenes, it’s really not anything different than what was going on before. [STP] really have been together a long time and I’m proud of that. I really do like those guys and it hurts my feelings when we aren’t getting along, because I view them as family.” He once again continued his state of denial of being fired saying, “There are some issues that have to be worked out with STP, but they’re the same issues that have been going on since the end of the last tour. Nobody in the band can be fired. No one’s ever fired anybody, and no one’s ever quit the band.” In an interview with the Youngstown News Vindicator on or about March 21, 2013 believing that his firing was just reactionary saying, “They’ve done it before, and they can do it again. They’re good players, I respect them all. Every band has issues. I just think sometimes people say things before they really think about it. I know I’ve done that in the past. I was guilty of it with Velvet Revolver after myself and Matt [Sorum] got into an argument backstage before an encore. That led me to say that I wasn’t going to play anymore shows with those guys.” With the Cleveland News, he talks about the band needing to get back in the studio saying, “If we’re going to do something, we need to get back in the studio with Brendan O’Brien who has a track record with us and get re-inspired artistically again. We need to do it that way and get out there on the road and get out there with some excitement and not just turn our legacy into what Journey or Foreigner is. That’s not what we’re about. That’s not why we got into this. That’s not at all what I’m about.”

After weeks of not hearing from the band, on May 24, 2013 the band filed a lawsuit against Scott Weiland. Loudwire.com reported, “TMZ.com reports that the band stated that Weiland was chronically late for performances and missed promotional gigs, which led to the band missing out on the substantial amount that would have been generated by their 20th anniversary trek. The group claims in the suit that Weiland had planned to seize all the glory from the trek and had gotten to the point where he was no longer communicating with the other members, thus trying to “hijack” the tour.” Then the associated press added, “The band endured much strife and lost significant opportunities because of Weiland.” The band also claims that during the time from the firing to this point in the timeline, they said that Weiland tried to interfere with them hiring Chester Bennington of Linkin Park and he interfered with the releasing of their single Out Of Time. The band states, “Enough is enough. Without relief from the court, Weiland will continue violating STP’s rights, misappropriating STP assets and interfering with the band’s livelihood.” Those are some pretty big claims from the band, but yet the story continues on because the band released an official statement regarding the matter:

You may have read we recently filed suit against our former singer, Scott Weiland. We wanted to clarify a few things:

Our purpose in taking this action is not to hurt Scott. We want to move forward productively, and Scott’s choices and actions have prevented us from doing that. We were in the process of putting our 20th anniversary tour together to celebrate the release of our first album, Core. The plan was for a big tour where we’d perform the album in its entirety, along with some other favorite STP songs. So, you might imagine our shock and disappointment when, without any notice, we learned that Scott had seized this tour for himself as his solo tour, and decided to do exactly what we as a group had planned. We found out about it the same way you did—we saw an ad for it.

Without getting into legal details, the band has a binding agreement that clearly states what each of us can and cannot do outside of STP. Unfortunately many of the decisions Scott made violate this agreement, have been harmful to the band, and prevented us from moving forward. When our requests to Scott and his representatives that they abide by the agreement were ignored, we finally had enough. So now, we’ve made our choice. It was beyond time we made some new music, which was impossible in the dysfunctional environment we were in. We’ve lived in it long enough and have decided to move forward with STP. We wish Scott well. We’re really excited about the new music we’ve been making with Chester, including the song we just released, “Out of Time.”

We love this band and respect everything it means to you. We want to always give you our best and the choice we made is completely in that spirit.
Dean, Eric & Robert

KROQ Almost Acoustic Xmas - Day 1Don’t worry because it didn’t take long for Scott to respond to anything. With AZcentral.com, he states, “Originally, before the whole STP thing blew up, I said, ‘Look, we need to take a break. We need to make an album. We’ve been playing the same [expletive] set for four years, without a change. We’ve been watching ourselves go from playing 20,000-seat arenas to country fairs and 2,000-seat casinos.” Scott feels that the band was destroying what they had worked hard to build over the years. He also commented on their decision to continue on without him, “Is that how I want to see STP now? Not at all. Not the band that I started. Not the band that I named. Not the band that when I was in Huntington Beach, took a shot and called Robert DeLeo at his apartment, doing nothing in music, living with his girlfriend, and said, ‘Hey man, would you like to do a band?” When Scott wask asked about where everyone stood, he said, “I don’t really think about it a lot. I think about how disrespectful they are, sometimes, in between a sip of coffee and a hit of my cigarette. I think about how selfish they are.” In an interview with 98.7 The Gater in Florida, Scott commented  on the pending lawsuit saying, “We’re in litigation. There’s a band agreement, a band contract agreement. They didn’t follow the rules that were set down … for any member. There has to be a reason for letting go a member; you have to give them a certain period of time to do whatever different you want them to do. They can’t use the name with me not being in the band without us coming to an agreement. They’ll have to buy me out of the company because I have major value in the company and in the brand. The lawyers will deal with it.”

Stone Temple Pilots and Chester Bennington Perform at the House of Blues in Boston, MA on September 9, 2013In an interview with FasterLouder, Robert DeLeo opned up about the whole ordeal, “It was plain to see nothing was going to get done anymore with these four members of STP. It was very clear from Scott’s side of things, he doesn’t want to make music with us anymore. He didn’t want to tour anymore … I don’t think Scott really is into playing rock and roll music, and being in a rock and roll band, and being around us in particular. As friends or business partners. And it’s really sad, it’s sad to see.” He continues to say, “It wasn’t an overnight thing, it was building for many, many years and I just think that we tried to do everything we could. We had a lot of great years with Scott, and I feel thankful we complemented each other’s lives immensely through the years.” He continued, “But friends don’t treat friends like that. I think Dean and Eric and myself just got tired of being treated that way. I got really tired of being treated that way.” He talks about the hiring of Chester saying, ““It’s been great. It’s been a huge breath of fresh air, a lot more sanity, a lot more reasoning, and patience. Having a ‘stable’ singer, it’s new. It’s a very new feeling, and I don’t quite think Dean and Eric and I are used to it yet, it’s kind of surprising. Things are running very smoothly, it’s interesting because what I notice is I actually have a lot more energy onstage, because my day doesn’t involve wondering what’s going to happen that day.”

mainFinally when asked about Chester Bennington in an interview with WMMR, he said, “I’ve known Chester for a long time. I got to be pretty close to him on the Family Values Tour. I don’t think Chester did it in a spiteful way. I’m sure, I mean, the brothers DeLeo can be pretty persuasive.” He did share his thoughts on the way things went down, “My feelings were definitely hurt because it wasn’t something that was handled right at all. I don’t think that it was smart for them to do that. I’ve played with them for a long time. But then on another side of it, I can’t say that I’m that surprised. There’s things that have happened in the past that are somewhat similar so I guess nothing is totally shocking. But I am surprised … at what they did and without checking the legality of it, how they just decided to go and use the (band) name and go and hire another singer and start playing shows with a name that I still am an owner of.” 

In an interview with iChill posted on August 12, 2014, Scott says, “I’m really committed to what I’m doing right now. There are memories I have that will always be close to my heart, but as far as will there ever be anything again with STP? It’s very hard to say. I’ve learned to never say never in this business, but at this juncture, I’m 100 percent focused on my band The Wildabouts, making a record with them and being the leader of that band.” While he was deep in a conversation about the situation in Velvet Revolver, he leaked out his thoughts on STP with Chester saying, ““It’s like STP hiring Chester Bennington. They made an album and it sold 35,000 units. That’s kind of unbelievable considering STP sold over 40 million and I’m sure Chester’s band Linkin Park has sold pretty much the same amount. It didn’t work, though. People weren’t buying into it.”

Those were all interviews conducted with the band and Scott Weiland between 2013 and 2014. It is now 2015 and the saga continues as Scott recently spoke with Ultimate Guitar saying that whatever legal issues there have been between the band is now quitely and thankfully behind them. That didn’t stop them from asking him about Chester being in the band and he responded saying, “I really don’t think about it that much. It’s like our legal suits we had going are way behind us now. They’re doing what they’re doing and I’m doing what I’m doing and I wish them luck.” When reflecting on the firing and the events that preceeded with QMI Agency in Canada, he says, “It’s just a shame how it happened. I said I needed six months off. I felt we needed six months off in order to do a 20th year anniversary tour and that 20th anniversary tour didn’t end up happening and I said, ‘Okay, then we need to make a new record because we can’t go on just playing the greatest hits set. It’s not going to work. We’re losing our fanbase. Our guarantees are starting to go down.” You can never assume that everyone is always on the same page especially when you are in a band,just ask David Lee Roth or Sammy Hagar of Van Halen. Nevertheless, he continued to reflect saying, “They got different management and things just soured. [I’ve known them] since I was a teenager. Crazy things happen especially when you end up getting different management. People see things one way and a lot of times how things are portrayed to the band members are through the goggles of management and filtered through that and that’s what you end up hearing.”

Stone-Temple-Pilots-Dean-DeLeo-Scott-Weiland-630x420A Couple of weeks ago, Dean DeLeo was interviewed by OC Register and he laid it all out on the table saying, “Robert [DeLeo], Eric [Kretz], Scott and I had put 25 years of our lives into it. Just because I had one guy that didn’t really give a [care] anymore, I’m not going to let one guy ruin my dream, my band and my legacy. I worked hard for Stone Temple Pilots and I loved it with a passion. Robert, Eric and I don’t take for granted what the music has meant to people. I just want to be really clear about something. We were never, in any way, trying to just replace anyone. In his day, and I’m speaking of Scott, there was no one better … no one. I will take that to my grave. In his day, there was no one better, but my dear Scott left us long ago.” In the interview he also touched upon the hiring of Chester, “We knew Chester was fit for the position in every sense of the word — physically, mentally, spiritually — we knew he would bring an elegance and justice to not only to our legacy, but to our future.” All I know is that while I am not a huge fan of change when it comes to iconic singers in bands, sometimes it can beneficial as it has worked for some bands like Van Halen or even Black Sabbath, but there will always be those who remain faithful to the original lineup. You be the judge for yourself as the evidence was presented to you here thanks in large part to Loudwire.com.

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